29 September, 2024

Warwickshire Vitality CC Div 1 at Trent Bridge Draw 14 pts

 

Day 4

GAME 
PETERS OUT 
INTO A TAME DRAW

But it's business as usual for Sam Hain




As expected the last game of the season petered out into a tame draw. When bad light ended the season at 15:47 Warwickshire stood at 373-7 off 110 overs, still 114 runs behind Notts’ first innings total. Sam Hain continued his love affair against the Notts attack ending on an undefeated 153 (off 309 balls, 14x4). In 11 first-class matches against Notts he has scored 729 runs @48.60 (2x100, 5x50). In 16 T20 games he has 697 runs @87.12 (1x100, 5x50) and in 4 List A games he has 187 runs @46.75 (2x50).


Notts failed to take a wicket in the morning session as Warwickshire resumed on 143-4. Hutton (Pavilion End) and Duffy opened the bowled under dark clouds but the overnight pair made slow and steady progress. James replaced Duffy from the Radcliffe Road End for the 56th over and in his second over of his spell James conceded 10 runs including two consecutive boundaries for Barnard.

Lord came on for Hutton in the 59th over and in 61st over, Barnard hit him for successive fours. Farhan replaced James from the 62nd over. A four through point by Barnard of Lord saw him to 50 off 108 balls. After Lord conceded 22 runs in three overs, McCann replaced him for the 65th over. A quick single by Hain off McCann saw him to three figures of 202 balls in the 71st over. Warwickshire 248 for 4 off 75 overs at lunch time with Hain on 104 and Barnard on 77.

In the third over after the interval, Barnard (81 off 148 balls, 11x4) was caught top edging a sweep off Farhan straight to substitute King at long leg, 255 for 5 in the 78th over. The fifth wicket had added 150 in 47 overs. The sun had made an unexpected appearance and overhead conditions through most of the second session were much brighter.

Burgess took McCann for 14 runs in the 81st over including a six over mid-wicket. The new ball was taken by Hutton and Farhan with Warwickshire 280 for 5 off 82 overs but it did not bring any early joy for Notts. In the 88th over, Burgess swept Farhan for 6 over square leg to bring up the Warwickshire 300. The game was dead as a contest as the sparse crowd seemed to get more joy watching an errant squirrel making several circuits of the outfield.

Duffy replaced Hutton for the 91st over. In the 94th over, Burgess hit Farhan for six over mid-wicket. Burgess reached his 50 off 65 balls. Duffy conceded 11 runs in the 97th over with Burgess finding the ropes of consecutive deliveries. James therefore replaced him for the 99th over. Burgess (56 off 71 balls, 6x4, 4x6) hitting his second delivery for a straight six but James removed him fours balls later caught by Hutton at deep mid-on, 354 for 6. Lord returned for the 100th over. Briggs departed for a 7 ball duck caught at point by substitute Hayes off Lord, 355 for 7 in the 102nd over. Hain reached his 150 off 299 balls with a single off James in the 105th over. Warwickshire 361 for 7 off 106 overs at tea with Hain on 151 and Booth on 1.

The clouds rolled over once more during the second intermission. Slater came on straight after tea in partnership with Farhan in order for Lord to switch ends for the 109th over but it is clear that the end was nigh. Farhan (3-102) bowled the 110th over and his fourth ball was swept to the square leg ropes by Booth (11 not out). Two dots balls followed. The umpires conferred and deemed the light from the Pavilion End for Rob Lord to bowl was inadequate. The teams shook hands and the 2024 season was finally at end after a record 177 day (25 weeks 2 days) duration. It certainly was not a memorable one, poor weather, a championship points structure not fit for purpose with too many points for a draw and a disappointing on the field performance from Notts. Supporters though can have great optimism around both Farhan and McCann who along with Verreynne lit up the final month of the season. McCann the first Notts batsman to score two hundreds in his first two innings at Trent Bridge.

Notts eighth in the standings only winning two championship games and those against the two teams that finished below them in the standings. A two place drop from 2023 when Notts won four games, although like 2024 all four victories were against teams below them in the table. Peter Moores’ record in his four first division seasons with the Green and Golds reads played 56 won 10 lost 26 drawn 20. Notts overall playing record in 2024 was played 36 won 9 lost 17 drawn 8 no result 2.

Let’s hope for a much better all round 2025!
MAG









Freddie McCann innings updated

Chris O'Brien has been checking the Nottinghamshire record books:

 McCann is 2nd Notts player to score two centuries in his first-class debut season.
First was Freddie Stocks in 1946. His 2nd century in his 14th match. Age 28.
MCann in 5th match. Age 19.

McCann first to score 100 and 150 on first-class debut season.

UPDATE

One player scored a century in his only innings at Trent Bridge in a year: JR Wileman in 1992, which was his Nottinghamshire debut year. But he only scored 43 in his next innings at Trent Bridge, in 1995.

No-one scored a century at Trent Bridge in a season while having at least one innings at Trent Bridge that year and never having had an innings at Trent Bridge in a previous year.

So I conclude that McCann is the only one to have scored two centuries in his first two innings at Trent Bridge.

Day 3

VERREYNNE EXTENDS NOTTS ADVANTAGE

as Lancashire are relegated, whilst their rivals Yorkshire are promoted




On a low key third day at sunny Trent Bridge, Warwickshire finished 344 runs behind with six first innings wickets still standing. The big news was Lancashire's failure to secure any batting bonus points which meant they have been relegated to the Second Division.

Before play. a large crowd had gathered in front of the Pavilion to witness a special presentation to club legend Luke Fletcher who is leaving Trent Bridge after 17 seasons on the staff. A very good send off to the Bulwell Bomber.

Hannon-Dalby (Radcliffe Road End) and Barnard opened the bowling with overnight pair Verreynne and Lord making steady progress. In the 90th over a four through mid-wicket by Lord off Barnard (Pavilion End) brought up the Notts 350. Booth replaced Barnard for the 92nd over. Hannon-Dalby picked up his 50th wicket of the season having Lord lbw for 31, 358 for 7 in the 93rd over. The 7th wicket had raised 75 off 19 overs.

Verreynne top edged Booth for 4 and then off the following ball hit him for six over mid-wicket. A four through square leg by Verreynne off Booth took him to his well-made ton off 119 balls in the 98th over. Hutton hit consecutive fours off Barnard taking Notts passed 400 in the 101st over. Miles returned from the Pavilion End from the 102nd over. Yates replaced Briggs from the Radcliffe Road and with his first delivery had Hutton stumped for 29, 416 for 8 in the 107th over. The 8th wicket had added 58 in 14 overs.

Briggs immediately switched to the Pavilion End. Notts 425 for 8 off 110 overs and had gathered four batting points. Farhan (10) was caught at backward point by Davies. Lunch was immediately taken. Notts 440 for 9 off 114.5 overs at the interval with Verreynne on 130 not out.

Verreynne hit Yates for 6 over mid-wicket in the 117th over. Verreynne and Duffy had added 47 off 11 overs when Mousley came on and had Duffy (29) stumped with his third delivery. Notts 487 all out off 125.3 overs with Verreynne undefeated on a classy 148 off 167 balls (19x4, 2x6). Eight Warwickshire bowlers had taken a wicket, a very unusual occurrence.

Occurences of eight bowlers taking a wicket in an innings

Off the sixth delivery of the opening over of Warwickshire reply, Yates was caught at second slip by McCann diving to his left off Hutton for a duck, 0 for 1. Hutton looking a lot fitter than in recent appearances. Davies (5) attempting to shoulder arms played onto Duffy and lost his off stump, 6 for 2 in the 6th over. Notts nemesis Sam Hain joined Rhodes, in his last game for The Bears prior to his move to Durham, in the middle and they added 99 in 24 overs for the third wicket.

James was introduced from the Radcliffe Road End in the 12th over. Lord came on for the 15th over and was unlucky not to pick a wicket in his four over spell from the Pavilion End. Farhan came on for the 18th over and despite his tender 16 years was Notts' best bowler on show today. Warwickshire at tea 68 for 2 off 21 overs with Rhodes on 19 and Hain on 31.

Duffy and Farhan were bowling straight after tea with Warwickshire adding a further 75 for the loss of two further wickets. The Kiwi bowling with pace but tending to spray too many balls down the leg side. There was a long stoppage as Farhan had receive attention after being hit on his elbow by an errant throw from skipper Hameed. A legside boundary by Rhodes off Duffy brought up the Warwickshire 100 in the 29th over. Farhan got one to turn and removed Rhodes' (37) off stump, 105 for 3 in the 30th over. Mousley went for a 2 ball duck, lbw for a duck, 105 for 4 in the 30th over. Two wickets in three balls for Farhan. Hutton returned from the Pavilion End in the next over. A legside single for Hain off Farhan saw him to 50 off 100 balls in the 36th over. Lord came on for the 43rd over, Barnard cover driving his opening delivery for four. Bad light stopped play at 17:27 with Warwickshire on 143 for 4 off 44 overs with Hain on 59 and Barnard on 21. Verreynne had given another highly efficient display behind the stumps. Play was called off for the day 18 minutes later. MAG




Day 2

THE BOY'S THE REAL McCANN

Fantastic Freddie scores fabulous high-pressure century, easing relegation fears for Notts


A wet outfield this morning and bad light meant despite a sunny day only 69 overs were possible at Trent Bridge today. After starting the day on 33-2, Notts looked in some trouble at 55-3 when Joe Clarke was dismissed. However led by the outstanding Freddie McCann (130 off 223 balls, 19x4) and with fine support from Kyle Verreynne (76* off 91 balls, 12x4) Notts closed the day on a comfortable 324-6 off 82.4 overs.

After continuous overnight rain that stopped around 0700, a wet outfield meant no play this morning and early lunch being taken.

With news coming through that there would no play today at New Road play commenced at 1300 with Barnard and Hannon-Dalby bowling. At biting strong northernly wind meant unless he were sitting in the Radcliffe Road suntrap temperatures were somewhat Baltic in nature.

McCann and Clarke made a circumspect start, indeed overs 21, 22 and 23 were all maidens. In the 24th over a four through point by McCann brought up the Notts 50. Booth replaced Hannon-Dalby for the 25th over and Clarke hit him for four through the covers. However, Booth got his revenge with his next delivery knocking Clarke’s (12) off stump out of the ground; 56 for 3. This was the cue for McCann to open up and he played a magnificent innings caressing the ball to predominantly square on each side of the wicket and mostly along the floor. At nineteen he looks an outstanding prospect.

 Hannon-Dalby switched to the Pavilion End for the 30th over.  McCann taking 11 of the over including two wonderful boundaries through cover point. In the next over, the flashing blade of McCann hit two offside boundaries off Booth.

A three for Haynes off Hannon-Dalby brought up the Notts 100 for the 32nd over. Later in the same over, McCann hit successive boundaries through extra cover and third man to reached his 50 off 87 balls. Blue skies were overhead the slow seaming pitch from 24 hours earlier had been somewhat somnolent.

Miles came on for the 35th over and his opening delivery was hit to mid-wicket ropes by McCann. With Notts 150 for 3 off 39 overs, Briggs came on and Haynes hit his opening delivery for four through backward square leg. The 100 partnership came up in 92 balls with two for Haynes off Briggs. Barnard returned for the 45th over. Haynes (47 off 55 balls, 6x4) was caught at slip by Rhodes diving to his right off Briggs, 182 for 4 in the 46th over. Haynes had once again played another cameo innings but failed push on. He has scored 622 first-class runs @32.73 with a top score of 77. The 4th wicket partnership between McCann and himself had added a highly entertaining 127 off 21 overs.

A reverse sweep by McCann off Briggs brought his ton off 147 balls and the Notts 200 in the 50th over. Yates came on with his off spin for the 51st over. Notts were 211 for 4 off 52 overs at tea with McCann on 105 and Verreynne on 8.

Hannon-Dalby and Barnard bowled straight after tea. Verreynne was now the dominant scorer with McCann starting to tire. Booth came on from the Pavilion End for the 60th over, Verreynne took two boundaries off Hannon-Dalby in the 61st over. Briggs returned for the 66th over and a four through mid-wicket by Verreynne took Notts to 250. Two balls later, Verreynne hit the slow left armer through backward point for 4, Booth bowled the following over from the Radcliffe Road End. Briggs went for 12 in the 70th over, another two boundaries for Verreynne. Rhodes was given a bowl for the 72nd over and Miles returned for the following over and yorked McCann, who departed bowled for 130, 280 for 5. The fifth wicket added 98 in 27 overs. James (2) was caught at first slip by Yates at first slip off Rhodes,  283 for 6 in the 74th over. Rhodes the sixth Bear to take a wicket in the innings. Verreynne reached his 50 off 70 balls with a cover driven boundary over Miles. He hit the following two balls from Miles to the point ropes, the over going for 13. A cover driven boundary by Lord off Miles took Notts to their second batting point in the 77th over. The new ball was taken by Hannon-Dalby and Rhodes with Notts 317 for 6 off 80 overs. The sun dropped below the stand and bad light immediately stopped play at 17:51 with 324 for 6 off 82.4 overs with Verreynne on 76 and Lord on 12. 

A great day for Notts, with relegation fears diminishing, and a most memorable one for Freddie McCann. MAG

Statistical note from Chris O'Brien


McCann is 2nd Notts player to score two centuries in his first-class debut season.

First was Freddie Stocks in 1946. His 2nd century in his 14th match. Age 28.
MCann in 5th match. Age 19.

McCann first to score 100 and 150 on first-class debut season.

UPDATE

One player scored a century in his only innings at Trent Bridge in a year: JR Wileman in 1992, which was his Nottinghamshire debut year. But he only scored 43 in his next innings at Trent Bridge, in 1995.

No-one scored a century at Trent Bridge in a season while having at least one innings at Trent Bridge that year and never having had an innings at Trent Bridge in a previous year.

So I conclude that McCann is the only one to have scored two centuries in his first two innings at Trent Bridge.



Day 1

POOR START BY NOTTS


Only 15.2 overs were bowled at Trent Bridge today in Notts’ crucial last championship fixture versus Warwickshire.

Heavy overnight rain caused a wet outfield and despite the morning sunshine play did not start until 13:10 with 24 overs lost.

Warwickshire won the toss and elected to field on what looked like an easy pace paced pitch. Hutton and Verreynne came in for Fletcher and Schadendorf.

Hannon-Dalby (Radcliffe Road End) and Barnard shared the new ball and got some earlier movement on a surface which had sweated under the covers. Hameed carved the second delivery of Notts’ innings to the point ropes. In the following over, Slater found the third man boundary off Barnard. In the fifth over, Slater cover drove Hannon-Dalby for four. In the following over, Hameed (7) lost his off stump to Barnard, 15 for 1. The tenth time this season that Hameed has been bowled in championship cricket out of 21 dismissals in total - a staggering 47% occurrence rate. Booth replaced Hannon-Dalby for the 9th over. Rain stopped play at 13:53 with Notts 27 for 1 off 10.5 overs with Slater on 10 and McCann on 4.

Play recommenced at 16:13 with 29.1 overs remaining. Booth bowled one dot ball to Slater and then the players trooped off once more with light rain falling. Play recommenced at 16:26 with a further three overs lost. In the 13th over, Slater drove Booth to extra cover ropes. Hannon-Dalby replaced Booth from the Radcliffe Road End for the 15th over and removed Slater (16) caught by Rhodes diving to his right at first slip, 33 for 2. Two balls later bad light terminally stopped play at 16:44 with Notts 33 for 2 off 15.2 overs with McCann on 4 and Clarke on 0. The rain soon followed.

A bad day for Notts, who need 10 points from this fixture to ensure First Division status. The pressure well and truly on now with Worcestershire in dire straits at New Road standing at 119-7 against Notts’ relegation rivals Lancashire. The forecast is much better for Friday and Saturday. MAG




26/09

Inspection at noon. 

11.40

It's like the umpires are waiting for it to rain.
There's been no footballers and I've just seen Lord and Duffy exiting Dixon Gates.

There's been no rain for 2 hours here. They are having lunch at 12 at Worcester. 

Just one presentation today, unless John Pye have got something extra up their sleeve. This one is at the beginning of lunch.

Weather forecasts suggest it will rain at some point , if not all day.

This game is all about point accumilation for both sides, so getting on the field, playing cricket would be useful.

08:40

At Worcester the covers are off, there are patches of blue sky and a few players are kicking a ball about. The groundstaff meanwhile appear to have a bit of mopping up to do.

Pravda says it's overcast but dry at Trent Bridge.








25/09

BBC Previews the last round

The Notts Squad:

Haseeb Hameed
Ben Slater
Freddie McCann
Joe Clarke
Jack Haynes
Lyndon James
Kyle Verreynne
Liam Patterson-White
Brett Hutton
Rob Lord
Farhan Ahmed
Jacob Duffy
Dane Schadendorf

24/09

Preview

The last match of a disappointing season and yet there are a few faint glimmers of hope in the shape of the young lads now being given an opportunity to play.

Lunch on Day 1, we are told, the triumphant Second Eleven will be presented their SEC winners shield. Several of what should be in the announced squad for this game, have made positive impacts during the Seconds' dominant season - Liam Patterson-White, Freddie McCann, Dane Schadendorf, Farhan Ahmed, dare I suggest Sammy King and coach Steven Mullaney wouldn't want Tom Moores to miss out on a mention.

For the players hopefully being allowed to progress into the first eleven, first division survival is imperative, such is the chasm between the two divisions now (or at the least the top four teams in division one and the rest).

If Notts are to be seen to have made any year on year improvements, we have to close that gap as Somerset have done. Our head coach has had eight seasons [this season is his 9th] now to close that gap but we are as far away now as we were when the now Director of Cricket stepped away from team playing matters in 2016. All those hopes of 2016 have been dashed, we've gone backwards on more than one occasion over that time and only thanks to the positive spin of the Trent Bridge propaganda machine have senior staff kept their jobs. The so-called Top Table at Trent Bridge have now become a cosy, so comfortable with eachother, institution and it isn't working for the club on the field as results in 2024 have shown. Bottom of the North Group in the counties' shop window event the T20 Blast, nowhere near qualification for the knock-out stages of the One Day Cup and clinging on in the Championship to our Division 1 status. The success of the second eleven has to be built upon and player development must not be allowed to be stifled anymore by the signing of inadequate stop gap players from other counties, the DoC has so much [too much]history of doing this in his decades at the helm. It is time for long over due CHANGE at Trent Bridge. 

There will be a lot of members that will support the CEO, the DoC and the head coach to the hilt. But, I would suggest to those members that the three people [The Top Table]in question have been in positions so long [too long], and that they can't differentiate their support now between that for the Top Table and that for Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club.

I don't think I'm alone in believing that the environment created at our club, that of cronyism and nepotism, where conflicts of interest are just ignored, is in anyway good for the future success of our club or for cricket in general within our county borders. It is time for a CHANGE of leadership.

Enough of the soapbox ranting, as nothing will change whilst there's a prospect of huge sums of money heading the Trent Rockets' way. Talk about conflicts of interest...

Can Notts blow a fifteen point cushion? It would require Lancashire to almost probably win, and Notts to lose without gaining any bonus points [something that Notts have managed to do before in Septembers past during the reign of our now DoC]. But, we're better than that now aren't we, and we don't want to be relying on the weather either do we?

A win would push us above Warwickshire, who have had "an underwhelming season", and this has started a lot of media speculation about their own head coach's job security.





73 comments:

  1. This our second season, probably, of staving off relegation. Are we, as a club going to cling to this weary cricket management ? With relegation fights, if the club pushes it's luck too often, relegation will happen in the not too distant future.

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  2. You know the answer. No change to management same old results. Worse of all zero pleasure. Go on renew that membership!

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  3. How does the head coach keep his job?

    His record in FCC for Notts:
    2016 Div 1 Relegated
    2017 Div 2 Promoted
    2018 Div 1 Survived just by vertue of more wins than relegated team on same points
    2019 Div 1 Relegated bottom
    2020 Bob Willis Trophy finished 4th in group of 6
    2021 Conference and then Div 1, finished 3rd but with most points over all
    2022 Div 1 Promoted
    2023 Div 1 6th
    2024 Div 1 ????

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    1. Notts are hardly thriving under Mr Moores stewardship

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    2. Notts under Peter Moores:

      Won. Lost. Drawn
      2024. 2. 4. 7.
      2023. 4. 4. 6.
      2022. 8. 2. 4. (Division 2)
      2021 7. 4. 3 (Covid Season)
      2020 0. 2. 3 (Bob Willis Trophy)
      2019 0. 10. 4.
      2018 4. 8. 2.
      2017 7. 2. 5. (Division 2)

      31. 36. 34.

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    3. Just 10 of those 31 wins in Div 1 (55* games)

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  4. I can't imagine that Hameed would be overjoyed with the prospect of working with Moores for at least another year. You would love to be a fly on the wall in that dressing room to hear the players conversations when the two Moores's are absent.
    I wonder how many .or if any of the players, still believe in Peter and his methods My guess is, very few.

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  5. We need to stay up but with Yorkshire looking like coming up and it seems they're finally sorting themselves out I can see another struggle for us next year. Is it still 14 matches again next year?

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  6. 81 NOT OUT
    Excellent comments Dave . Thoughtful and very reasonable summing up of the Top Table and “best mates”
    Something to ponder !
    If some regular Second 11 players had been allowed to play many more games in the First 11team then a weakened Seconds might not have won their Championship title? On the other hand the First 11 may have had a better season with more appearances by up and coming and eager Seconds ? In other words we might have won an extra game ( or two) and thus not be threatened with relegation to Div 2
    It’s just a thought.
    Wrong team selection throughout the season ( with little imagination during the first 10 four dayers) has put us in a position we really should not be in . Have not managed to put this view using the right phrases but hope it makes reasonable sense?

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  7. It's Warwickshire's turn now to use "We just have to gather ourselves, dust down and get ready".

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    1. There's an ECB course for coaches that teaches such meaningless responses to the media. It runs along side the players' "Definitely" course.

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    2. I think Peter Moores writes the ECB course on CV s. Think Benkenstein studied it and got a first class. Enough to fool the hapless Chilton anyway. It really is close run which of Lancs and Notts have the worst DOC/ head coach combination though Notts has it on proven longevity.

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  8. As winter approaches, Notts have one final hurdle to negotiate.
    Irrespective of their own efforts, I expect the weather to come to their aid, especially at Worcester who host relegation rivals, Lancashire.
    Don't expect a green top result wicket at at Trent Bridge tomorrow.
    A boring draw with a few batting points will do just fine.

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  9. We do need to put some points on the board, in case of a shock Lancashire win. No collapses, though please

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  10. 81 NOT OUT
    NOTTS should go for a victory . Messing about to get a few points might go horribly wrong

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  11. I wonder if the naming of Dane in the squad is a hint that he will keep and we will play Verreynne as an extra batsman. I wouldn’t have thought so but you never know.

    “Overcast and dry”? Well it isn’t raining (yet)
    Jim G

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  12. Cynical delay, no sight or sound of players and there are a lot of schools here to entertain.

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  13. Any announcements on when play will start?

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  14. Can hear it now come Sunday. How I turned it around by Mr Moores. Rather he said iv tended my resignation.

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  15. Worcester 22-5 so their game with Lancs might not go on for long

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  16. Lancashire to bowl Worcestershire out for below a hundred then only batting once
    & then going on to win the game
    To Notts do not try to contrive a result
    It as a way of backfiring

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  17. Lancs problem is that they need to win with 23 points assuming notts get no bonus points and 8 points for the draw. That would mean they need to get 4 batting points (so 400 runs). There might be the time in the match to do that but is there the weather? Worcester is in the amber warning for Thursday night and it looks by the way as if south Nottingham is too….

    That assumes we draw of course……..

    Jim G

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    1. Well well well . Certainly a lot of people on here being really optimistic eh . Look i for one believe if Notts go down then it isn't the end of the world and maybe just maybe some changes will happen

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  18. The odds still seem to be in Notts's favour, but maybe very slight shift other way, in that Lancs got 2 points today to our none. Slight worry is, at present, good forecast for Sat/Sun. That and our capacity to disintegrate in a match. Hopeful but would not say confident yet.

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  19. No I wouldn’t be either.

    Assume just for a second there will be no play tomorrow in either game. But good prospects Saturday.

    It’s entirely feasible that we find ourselves behind on first innings by Saturday evening. And given today’s score, also entirely feasible that Lancs find themselves well ahead in their game.

    That will mean that we can’t bank on getting a draw and that Lancs don’t need to take time out the game to get necessary batting points.

    If they pip us then clearly - with what will be 4 wins - they will deserve it

    Jim G

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  20. Notts need to bat heroically on Friday to collect a few batting points. No brain dead shots, please! Fletch can then lead a rain dance around Trent Bridge on Saturday!

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  21. Hope no money has moved down the M6 and M5 from Manchester to Worcester today.....

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  22. Current forecast for here and Worcester is rain overnight tonight, but no further rain until Sunday afternoon. so both games should get a result or close to it, unless we bat most of tomorrow and take the game away. But we could easily collapse and then be facing a 100 run deficit sometime on Saturday afternoon. It is in our hands but dont have confidence that we can bat well enough

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  23. I have every faith in the management to pull Notts clear.

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  24. 81,NOT OUT
    Have no fear - everything is under control .0h ye of little faith .
    Lancs are 5/1 to stay up in Div 1
    Terrible shame if the weather intervenes to make it an un level playing field .

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    1. They are good odds I think given the current state of both games and the forecast.

      Jim G

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    2. If Lancashire win and are still relegated, where is the justice in that? FOUR wins as opposed to Notts' 2 or Warwick's 1 surely screams out that the points system is broken, that there isn't sufficient reward for doing the hardest thing in Championship cricket, that is winning a game. Just my personal view.

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    3. I seem to remember - but others will know - that a draw used to be 4 points and was changed a while ago when they seemed to always be tinkering with the points system (I think the logic was to encourage longer batting)

      But that gives the prospect of 16 points for a drawn match vs , say, 19 for a win in a low scoring game (which lancs might be about to have).

      Jim G

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    4. Drawn points was raised to EIGHT from FIVE during COVID as there were fears of games being halted suddenly owing to illness / Positive COVID Tests. In 2022 it went down to FIVE points again but following some lobbying from the wetter western counties (I believe) it has returned to EIGHT this year. I've just randomly checked 2010 because I can't remember when the it changed to FIVE originally and in 2010 you only got THREE points for the draw. If it was THREE points for a draw this year, Notts, Lancashire and Warwickshire would all have been level on points before this round of matches. Now that would have been interesting.

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    5. The Curmudgeon KidFriday, 27 September, 2024

      You 'play the game in town', teams play the game based on the points on offer. More points for a draw: expect more draws. Hence, under the current points regime, teams see the benefit of settling for draws, you can't blame them, they're simply 'playing the game in town '.

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    6. Yes but is EIGHT points for a draw best for the game / the future of the County Championship (in these uncertain times)?

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    7. To Nottsview Admin Dave
      Have you just realised the vagaries of the points system ? Would you have mentioned this if Notts were further up the table and had nothing to play for in this last round of games ?

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    8. I hope I would have pointed out that something was wrong with the points system if a team that had won 4 games was relegated, whist a team with just one win survived. Winning a game is the whole point of playing and is currently still the hardest thing to achieve over four days. I realise if the balance was to swing too far in favour of winning and there being relatively no reward for a draw then wickets would become bowler friendly and games would last just two days resulting in Andrew Stauss getting all mardy again along with the meddling Rob Key. It's a balance and at present (to me) it doesn't feel right.

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    9. And as I said yesterday, if we'd have had the same results this season, after 13 rounds Lancashire, Notts and Warwick would have been level on points if we have had only THREE points for a draw. I'm no great fan of Lancashire BTW, but that situation seems a lot fairer to me. The vagaries of the points system shouldn't be there to commensate for the vagaries of the weather which no one can control.

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  25. Bottom of the blast table . Failing to qualify for the one Day cup quarterfinals. And now stopping up just in the championship. On top of all the blunders along the way. Can’t wait to renew-not!

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  26. 81 NOT OUT
    You have to feel for the Lancashire fans .Its awful if bad weather actually decides relegation in Div 1 and promotion in Div 2.
    Fans of four day cricket must be the toughest spectators in sport these days . Perishing and half drenched in April and September on a regular basis . With little chance of a change in the coming years ?
    I wonder if the ECB have considered playing 4 day Championship games in March and October ? 😜

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    1. Remember that we only managed one day's play at Worcester earlier this season and were also well on top. Conversely there has also been a few matches such as Southport where we were saved by the rain. Playing in April and September does reduce the chances of four consecutive fair weather days and even under cloudless skies in September you can go off for bad light as the sun sets.

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    2. Robbed by the weather and saved by the weather, it's swings and roundabouts but should the points system compensate?

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  27. Great batting today, and hopefully another 50 or 60 in the morning. Very positive that the strategy of the top trio is working and we are on the way up

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  28. Freddie McCann is going to be some player!

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  29. A wonderful innings, and a wonderful day for Notts.

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  30. Wonderful day for Notts? Did I miss the resignation letters?

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  31. Can we get this SA wicketkeeper back next season please👍👍

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  32. yes amazing what happens when you get a number six wicket keeper / batsman, and I am not talking about the last one !!!!

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  33. 81 NOT OUT
    Well it’s now a fact . Notts stay up in Div 1. Must be a relief all round . Now that Peter Moores has seen the light and given young promising players a chance it’s looking far better prospects for next season .What a big diffference a quality wicket keeper has made to the side . It’s obviously the end of Tom Moores being selected for the First 11 .
    Notts have got out of jail . They should never have been in such a precarious position . P M and the DOC and Co have hardly covered themselves in glory this season . Everyone except them knew that the wrong players were being selected game after game .
    The faithfull weary Members deserve better.

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  34. The faithful weary members should not renew but they will.



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  35. If we can get Verreynne back Line up for next year. Hameed, Slater, McCann, Clarke, Haynes (?), Verreynne, James (?), Harrison / Ahmed, Stone, Dylan, Tongue. and we would definitely be top half of the table.

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  36. How folk forget this awful season. And ones previously. No wonder the management are under no pressure.

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    1. Seems like that. We have had a terrible season, will we learn nothing from it ?

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  37. Notts have been run badly on and off the field for a while now. This seasons player selections totally baffling and no apology when proved wrong.
    Im interested how moores will deal with the Wicketkeeper situation. One will go but who? But the the way Notts treat their loyal members. Wow such disrespect. I cannot believe people are expecting any difference next summer. Trent Rockets their only love along with keeping at any Cost test status. Sorry it's negative but it just goes on.

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  38. Despite earlier comments I for one am optimistic and it is hard not to be widen the stars of the last two matches have been a 19 yr old number 3 and a 16yr old spinner.

    However I think we have 3 problems for 2025

    Sean bowling reserves are thin. We have the names but we don’t have the fitness records and if we do then we might lose 3 to the England squad. Defacto this year we have lost Paterson Fletcher stone Pennington Tongue and Pettman

    Our reserve batting options are Ben and Monty. I like both- but they need a run of first team matches in any format.

    The wicket keeping situation needs to be clarified. Tom was persisted with until too late / so how does he come back? - and if he does then what will improve? Will Dane S be kept on? Seems hugely unlikely we will get Verreyne back for any meaningful stint

    Whilst the bowling and batting resources you can ascribe to England call ups, the keeper position is of our own making

    Jim G

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  39. I think going down would have precipitated the departure of Moores, Newell and Pursehouse. I for one could have accepted that.
    Staying in division 1 means nothing will change, a crying shame as I feel the club would be better of without them.

    Please the three of you see what you are doing is not good for NCCC.

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  40. A shambolic season. Moores, Newell and Pursehouse need to go.

    Terrible selections until the last few weeks.

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  41. Yes, we will be stuck with the two flowerpot men and Little weed again next year, Moores the pity.
    I reckon they will try to bring back Verraynne subject to his availability, which means Schadendorf will go as Tom Moores in contracted on big money till the end of next season.
    Another whopping mistake in a long line by Mr Newell.

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  42. Very poor season the only positives
    Were the clubs young debutants who with bat & ball saved us from relegation
    Next up the redevelopment of the
    Pavilion after the disastrous six
    Restaurant project in which no one as the integrity
    To take responsibility for this embarrassing white elephant don't forget
    The CEO stated it made a small profit
    🤣🤣🤣 clueless
    Personally it does concern me deeply
    That the new pavilion project could turn out to be a total failure with the clubs previous track record bringing a project in
    On cost & time, You really hope they've
    Learnt from there previous mistakes
    Somethings tells me NOT



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  43. Overall a disappointing season - how can it now be with such underperformance in red ball and both white ball formats.

    Positives? Too late, but at last Moores started picking the youngsters and they have done exceptionally well. A lot of credit must go to Matt Wood who runs the county age group pathway these days. We always moan that Samit is the only Notts batsman to emerge from the youth system in the last 25 years... well now maybe we have Freddie at last (and hopefully more in the pipeline!)

    Issues?! Other than the obvious problems at the top table, cricket wise it looks like we need:

    Bowlers who are fit and available to bowl - none of our bowlers were in the top 15 bowlers in the division by number of wickets
    A wicket keeper solution for the medium term - can't expect Clarke to do it and score 900+ runs and be white ball captain...
    Batsmen - well not a bad season, 3 Notts batsmen were in the top15 in the league for total runs.

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  44. And the three at the top wave you all goodbye for another season. But don't forget to renew!

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  45. I really hope I'm wrong but I think next year will be another struggle in the Championship with Yorkshire back up and they look to have sorted themselves out off the field. To survive again next season we'll need to finish above Durham, Sussex and Worcestershire, they'll be down the bottom with us.
    In T20 I DON'T want to see Alex Hales back next season, he's been a fantastic player for Notts but he's busy with other things now and not the same player as he was a few years ago. Hopefully we'll get through the group next time but the youngsters need to be given more chances and expectations need to be adjusted accordingly.
    In the 50 over competition we'll hopefully ...... oh sorry I forgot, we don't take that seriously so scratch that one.
    I suspect Moores, Newell and bloody Pursehouse will still be here so there's little purpose people constantly calling for them out as I really can't see it happening.
    I also expect Membership sales to be down slightly but not as much as some are predicting.
    Have a great winter all Notts CCC fans.

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  46. Memberships will be well down prob around 30%. And with no discount for early take up and a test that does not require you to renew. The folk who do will leave it till the last minute. So less money in the trent bridge kitty this winter.

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  47. Long standing executive members some. Being members for over 50 years have been informed due to the pavilion development your d executive memberships are suspended next season and will be reviewed in 2026 season ! 2 of the members had a meeting on Friday with a leading figure on the management team he turned up 30 minutes late !
    But frankly had nothing to offer we suggested the Randall suite for 20/20 matches . One day cup and county championship matches as many are elderly and come for the day and have there main meal !
    The person from management just said sorry not possible we have nothing to offer 😳 great customer service
    Stuart matthews

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    1. I understand that the Randall Suite will form part of the members' area, along with the Lower Hound Road seating. The CEO stated that all the usual "long room facilities" will be available from the Randall Suite including viewing, bar and catering. I've no idea what other perks an Executive Membership buys you on a match day other than seating away from us riff raff members. More elderly Execs will perhaps benefit from the better accessibility of the RS compared to the upper floors of the rickety old pavilion, I could point out. You didn't suggest the Restaurat Six or an executive box next the General Committee's box as alternatives then?

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    2. Go to Derbyshire they look after their executive members. Something Notts forgot about years ago










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    3. Every part of the ground was put forward by the executive members
      But the club were not up to facilitating anywhere in the ground
      Not even for championship cricket only
      By providing a couple of box's, direct answer no space available
      If the club can afford to lose 150k from the bottom line
      Good look to them especially when
      Every penny is required

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  48. Awful. Well I hope you told him in no uncertain terms you would not be continuing? There will be no place for you in the new pavilion in 2026 because they have corporate plans.

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  49. That's Christmas the issue they do not have a clue what to do with the space
    Just like the embarrassing six that was a last minute decision by the CEO
    & everyone knows what embarrassment that's become

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  50. 81 NOT OUT
    Well the long long season is finally over .
    I read somewhere that this County Championship season was the longest ever in the 134 year old history of the competition .
    The final match yesterday between Eng and Australia turned out to be a Duckworth Lewis farce played in temperatures of a very chilly 9 C !
    Time for a big re think by the match planners . How much longer will cricket fans be willing to shell out £100+ to see a match like yesterday’s ? Fans are being treated like mugs .
    Long term I think the 100 Ball Comp will fail . Then where will cricket in the UK be ? 100 Ball fans are NOT real cricket fans.. They don’t have a deep seated love of the game and will tend to be fickle fans in the future .

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  51. Yes very good points' Remember that comment from the tv commentator the 100 is for people who don't like cricket 🤣🤣🤣

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