Saturday 7 September 2024

NCCC News: Comment

 

07/09

Perspective: how bad were we?

All four T20 Blast quarter-finals were won by the South Group county taking part. Moores Outlaws finished last of nine in the North Group, so does this make us the worst T20 county in 2024?

Peter Moores got so many aspects of the 2024 Blast campaign wrong: overseas recruitment, team selections, tactics, balance of different bowlers and player preparation to name just five. It's difficult to see how Newell could justify Moores keeping his job after such an inept display. But he won't have to justify his decision, he'll just carry on being accountable to no one. 

We need a younger coach, someone who will free the players from batting with fear of failure, like we did for all but the last game at Headingley. We need leadership that never says die, gives the players some fight to the last attitude and the fans that never fading hope. It's not that many years ago when Notts were just like that. Since then Newell and Moores have dropped the ball and lost it in the long grass but neither have the courage to admit it.

So Mr Newell, we need less comfy, cosy familiarity at the top and have a more McCann-do attitude in 2025.

JUST STOP NEWELL

When members took it to Lord's in 2023







05/09

The Second XI friendly against Lancashire at Westhoughton CC has ended as a draw with no play possible on either the first (at Liverpool CC) or last days scheduled. Just 27 overs were possible on day 2. Lancashire 72/2

Pravda: Originally scheduled to be played at Liverpool CC, the fixture was moved to Westhoughton CC, Bolton, after the opening day was abandoned due to water on the playing surface






04/09

Where is Tom Moores?

There has been no reports of any injury, he missed the 2s game at Loughborough and he is also absent from the 2s game at Liverpool today.

When he was replaced as keeper (Clarke) at the beginning of the season, he shared wicket keeping duties with Dane Schadendorf in the Second XI; this hasn't happened this time (replaced by firstly Clarke and now Verreynne). So where is Tom Moores and is he still being paid by NCCC?


Happy Birthday Tom Moores, who turns 28 today


Josh Hull has been called-up to the England XI, congratulations to the young man. Farhan Ahmed has taken just three wickets less than Josh in his first class career of 2 games to date.


Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club Limited ?


Make what you will of this... (thanks to Richard Day for this find)

has it always been "Limited"?

02/09

Freddie McCann is the youngest Notts player to score a first-class 150

He was 19 years 134 days when he reached the milestone on Saturday, beating the previous record achieved by Arthur Carr on 12th August 1913 when he scored 169 v Leicestershire at Trent Bridge (20 years 83 days)

 

Many thanks to Chris O'Brien for confirming this information. MAG






29/08

Rumours circulating Trent Bridge today:

Fateh Singh will be joining Worcestershire on a permanent basis at the end of the season.

Luke Fletcher will be moving to the Nottinghamshire retirement facility, otherwise known as Derbyshire CCC, at the end of his current contract.



28/08

We all know that runs scored in the SEC count for very little unless your name is Tom and share the same surname as the Notts Head Coach, but for what it's worth; Fateh Singh scored a brisk (77 ball) century at Loughborough Town today. In the Head Coach's mind will be that Steven Mullaney had a brief six ball innnings, whilst Singh completed his century, so he'll be straight back into the first team on the strength of that...

Sammy King was absent owing to concussion protocols [hence Mullaney was drafted in to bat]





Confirmed - Kyle Verreynne

27/08

UNCONFIRMED

There is some suggestion that Notts will announce the signing of South African wicketkeeper Kyle Verreynne soon, apparently. 


Verreynne's stats don't read too shabby and he has just concluded playing in the West Indies, so shouldn't be under-cooked...

and like Dane Paterson, has a Western Providence connection.

This potential signing raises a few questions, however...










Sammy King suffered a helmet strike at Loughborough Town yesterday and was retired hurt not out, playing for the 2s against a Foxes 2s.


20/08

Larwood Certificate loaned to club to mark the 100th anniversary of the legend's debut for the county.




Pravda:
A piece of history has been presented to the Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club by Ashfield District Council, in honour of the centenary of the legendary Harold Larwood MBE's First-Class debut for Notts.

The historic certificate, presented to Nottinghamshire's Vice Chair Richard Stevenson by Councillors Arnie Hankin, Chris Huskinson and Tom Hollis, was originally gifted to Larwood following his first tour with England to Australia in 1928-1929, when he took 18 wickets on the way to a landmark 4-1 Ashes win for the Three Lions.

Regarded as one of England's greatest ever bowlers, the right-arm seamer took 1,247 First-Class wickets for Nottinghamshire - 92 for his country - and was honoured with an MBE by Queen Elizabeth II in 1993 for his services to cricket.

Marking the centenary of Larwood's First-Class debut - made against Northamptonshire at Trent Bridge on 20 August 1924 - the treasured item has been loaned to the club by Ashfield District Council, and will be on display in the Trent Bridge Pavilion from Thursday 29 August, when the Green and Golds welcome Surrey in the Vitality County Championship.

Vice Chair Richard Stevenson, who accepted the presentation of the certificate at Trent Bridge, said: “Harold Larwood is one of the greatest cricketers ever to play for Notts and for England, and I’m sure our members will be really interested to see this impressive tribute to his first successful Ashes tour.”
19/08

Olly Stone has not made the cut for the England eleven for the first Test Match against Sri Lanka. Will he be released to his county?



Former Notts and Middlesex pace bowler Tom Barber appeared on this evening's University Challenge on BBC2.



14/08

Lyndon James is captaining the England Lions side against Sri Lanka at New Road. Congratulations Lyndon!





13/08

Sammy King helps guide Norfolk to victory scorecard


10/08

Sammy King has been farmed out to Norfolk for their Championship game starting tomorrow. 





09/08

Lyndon James and Farhan Ahmed have been called-up for England Lions duty next week against Sri Lanka, a four day game at New Road.

England Lions 12-man squad

Farhan Ahmed (Nottinghamshire)

Zaman Akhter (Gloucestershire)

Kasey Aldridge (Somerset)

Josh Hull (Leicestershire)

Eddie Jack (Hampshire)

Lyndon James (Nottinghamshire)

Ben McKinney (Durham)

Ollie Price (Gloucestershire)

James Rew (Somerset)

Hamza Shaikh (Warwickshire)

Ajeet Singh Dale (Gloucestershire)

Rob Yates (Warwickshire)

The flag flying from the pavilion flag pole on 9 Aug 2024. Has there been a return of the stag?



Something else you wo't have read in Pravda: 

Notts Given a Caution

Fifteen First Class Counties have been charged with breaching the FCC Competition Regulations 2024 by playing players for more than one match in their 2nd XI teams, without them completing the mandatory online modules covering anti-corruption, recreational drugs, and player behaviour.

All 15 teams accepted the summary process.

All 15 teams were sent a letter from the CDC Adjudicator cautioning them as to their future conduct.

The teams were:

Yorkshire
Surrey
Somerset
Kent
Essex
Middlesex
Worcestershire
Leicestershire
Hampshire
Lancashire
Gloucestershire
Nottinghamshire
Glamorgan
Durham
Northamptonshire



04/08

Olly Stone has been called up in the Test squad for the series against Sri Lanka.

(a replacement for the injured Pennington?)



If Dane Paterson stays on in the West Indies for the ODI series, Notts would be down three of their first choice bowlers for the return of the Championship in a little over two weeks time. Cue the Josh Tongue question...


03/08

Dane Schadendorf century scorecard



Pravda takes the Moores related claptrap to the next level


Dillon Pennington appears to have picked up an injury playing for the Leeds H*ndred franchise.





31/07







20/07

Peter Moores Interview by Dave Bracegirdle, pity it wasn't done after last night's win as it would have nullified most of his intransigent arguments about team selections.







19/07

Freddie McCann on View from the Bridge about 20 mins listen


17/07

So were they pretending it was called the SBE until tomorrow?

15/07

Olly Stone Playing for Pride


Notts have won just two of their 12 games in the competition so far this season.

It has been almost two decades since the Outlaws have won only two matches in the competition, doing so in both 2005 and 2004 when there were significantly fewer group games.

For Notts, the T20 campaign this year produced unwanted history when they managed a club record low total of 57 in their nine-wicket defeat by Birmingham Bears earlier in July.

That tally was the forth lowest produced by any county since T20 cricket became part of the domestic schedule in 2003.

Will there be any fall-out from these?

Who will take the blame?

43 comments:

  1. Club has been stagnating for quite a few seasons now, and even though we cherry pick our players from other teams, we still cant build a winning team. I get the strategy of buying in players if you cannot develop your own, but whoever is in charge of the young player pathway (Newell ?) needs to take responsibility. When was the last good player to come though for Notts.

    Then even with buying in good players like Clarke, Slater, Stone, Hameed, etc we are average in the County champ, but really poor in 20/20. So is recruitment at fault as well.

    And numerous younger players, Martindale, Montgomery, Moores, James are not developing into forceful imposing players. Is the coaching at fault.

    Bottom line is the pathway, recruitment and coaching is poor, so should those responsible be accountable.

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    1. I'm no apologist for Messers Newell and Moores and their army of coaches, but they would say "look at the players we've brought in and improved like Duckett, Pennington and Clarke - they were good before but coming to Notts has made them England ready". I think that they see that as their whole raison d'etre. Forget about making Notts a success.

      Putting my Nottsview hat on, the player pathway failure over the past 20 years is the fault of Mick Newell. However, if the question was asked at the next forum about that failure, he would cite Martindale, Moores, James, Patterson-White, Fletcher, Hutton, Ball, Luke Wood and even Joey Evison all being examples that prove that his pathway has been a success. Note that not one of those names has made an impact over a number of years as a quality specialist batsman. Who was the last Notts academy graduate quality specialist batsman?

      As regards T20, I don't think Peter Moores has a chuffin clue really; with Outlaws past success being thanks to forceful overseas leadership, like from Dan Christian and vastly experienced team members that pre-date Moores' Notts arrival like Patel and Hales. Peter Moores stint in the PSL in 2022 saw his team Karachi Kings finish bottom of the league and in the Big Bash 2023/24 his Melbourne Stars side came only 6th.

      Moores' appointment is down to Mick Newell, who's quick to take the credit when things go well. But when we hit a bump in the road or in the case of this Blast season, a brick wall, Newell is invisble.

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    2. Correction, Newell hasn't been totally invisible during this lamented campaign: he crossed the pitch pre-match wearing his rainbow laces before the Bears mauling.

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  2. Have this theory about team managers, head coaches. They are good for a time, then run out of steam. Trophies were won under PM, but decline for some time, and now very stark. Little sign club is facing up to this realty.

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  3. 81 NOT OUT
    YES - I agree Rich. Its almost inevitable l that the great majority of people enter with a bang and exit in a whimper.1
    It happens to politicians . Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher being prime examples .. Songwriters like Lennon and McCartney . Authors like Alan Bennett.
    Entertainers, who don’t now entertain
    Comedians who are no longer funny 😁
    . The list goes on .I suppose we all lose imagination , creativity,, drive and fresh ideas over a period of time.
    Judging by recent events at TB , on and off the playing area it’s pretty easy to see MN and PM have lost the plot. Their team selections are like painting by numbers ! So predictable.

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  4. Re the man who played a few matches for Notts. Was there was not an official naming in 2023 ? I remember watching it on Central News ?

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  5. Wouldn't it make sense to rename it after the so called redevelopment with all the bells & whistles i personally thinks it's a bit embarrassing

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    1. After all the greats that have done wonderous feats for Notts CCC and got sod all named after them or at most the odd room here or there. The Stuart Broad End is just marketing fluff. It could have been worse however, it could have been named the Stuart Broad Pavilion End - perhaps that will be the next step once our CEO and Chairman have sold off the club's soul and extended the pavilion.

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    2. The top table are out of touch with the real membership of the county cricket club as evidenced with this pantomime.

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  6. Whenever I have the misfortune to observe Mr Newell at close quarters, he like a large percentage of modern culture, is glued to his phone, probably placing bets on a heavy Notts defeat.
    His new title, Director of Crap.

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  7. Very much agree with immediately above
    Me being a traditionalist, and proud to be so, for me Trent Bridge has The Radcliffe Road End, and The Pavilion End. If they want to call it The Clive Rice End, I would agree to that.

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  8. A team in a transition. We need a transition in coaching. How about appointing a new white ball coach that knows the modern white ball game?

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  9. Mark Stevenson20 July 2024 at 10:51

    Peter Moores has brought all of the flak onto himself, by being a stubborn misguided fool.
    This obsession with sticking by his "knarled old pro's "approach has failed in spectacular fashion allied to his blatant favouritism towards his son, has made his position untenable.
    All of this appears to be irrelevant, as it would appear that we are stuck with both of the Moores's ,and obviously the prat who extended his contract for at least another season.
    First thing, Newell needs to sign up King on a 3 year contract as it runs our shortly, and his big hitting prowess, won't have gone unnoticed elsewhere. He looks awkward, but is a tall guy with long levers ,which are a weapon in limited overs cricket.
    Secondly, negotiate a long term deal for McCann who looks a real prospect, with his ability to judge length early, with a good eye, and a range of shots both sides of the wicket.
    Thirdly, take team selection away from Peter Moores for the remainder of his contract, as this will improve the fortunes of the side.

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    1. Stop sitting on the fence Mark, say what you mean!

      Seriously though, well said.

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  10. 81 NOT OUT
    YES MARK - who can possibly argue against anything in your well thought out posting ?
    We don’t want another Evison scenario where we lose a good prospect needlessly.
    I wonder if deep down , Peter Moores has lost his vision and confidence ?
    Also his players must now be wondering if he is up to the job ?
    How can Moores now enter the Notts dressing room and look players in the eye and carry on spouting his usual robotic clap trap ?
    Last nights success could easily have occurred much earlier in the Blast campaign and produced different results - viz more victories!?
    We could , and should , be in the Blast quarter finals what with the vast resources available to the Head Coach and Director of Cricket .
    Peter Moores and Joe Biden have a lot in common !? Both over the hill and now outstaying their welcome . Everyone can see that except them . There is no fool like an old fool !

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  11. Wondered why he only bowled 5 balls having not watched it.do we know what kind of injury?

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    1. According to a poster on Facebook, Jack Brooks in a TV interview said it was a hamstring injury but didn't specify the seriousness of the injury.

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    2. Seems serious enough to be left out of the test squad and now Olly Stone called up to replace him?

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    3. Will seriously weaken the Notts side.

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  12. Let's hope he doesn't bowl as bad as he
    Bowled at Durham shocking performance

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  13. 81.NOT OUT
    STONE
    Completely over rated ?
    Look at his bowling stats this season .
    Hardly merits an England call up !?

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  14. I was wondering who would keep wicket in the next CC match as our new player isn’t available I don’t believe

    I concluded it could only be Clarke - otherwise the wicket keeper/batsman signing makes no sense.

    Therefore will we go in with the extra batsman or bowler!

    Jim G

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    1. Verreynne is unavailable for the Canterbury trip, but is available I understand for the Chelmsford away game.

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    2. Ah ok so I’ll hold my question over until then - of course by then there might be a different position on injuries or availability…

      Jim G

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    3. From one source I've been told that TM was injured (Durham) but is fit again now.

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  15. Hopefully Tom Moores on unpaid gardening leave until the end of his contract.
    I can guarantee that he won't be missed

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  16. I get the feeling he's been given time out of the spotlight.

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  17. 81 NOT OUT
    QUESTION
    Can Notts players under contract just pick and choose which matches they want to play in ? What would be the result if TM was selected to play in the Second 11 but decided it wasn’t for him?
    There seems to be an awful lot of scenarios where players are “ unavailable” to play for one reason or another . Has everything gone too
    “Wokey” and players now dictate when and where they want to play?

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    1. Through no fault of his own, Tom Moores is a special case owing to the conflict of interest with his dad picking the team. Being dropped and then being replaced with someone else by your own dad has to have had a unique pyschological impact on the, not so young anymore, player. Mentally unfit is still unfit and unavailable to play. He might never recover.

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  18. The performance of Verraynne, has shown just how poor Tom Moores is.
    The sooner Pursehouse removes her head from her backside and wakes up to the reality of how the club would improve and progress on the field, without either if the Moores's, the better for all concerned.

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  19. Tom as a another year on contract just like dad doesn't matter if he didn't play all next season he still gets paid, or the club could pay up there contracts & let them both go
    But this would cost the club north of 400k

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  20. Tom is in the middle and that could have been avoided. One of them will move on and I think it's Tom but can't imagine where! But it's a difficult situation.

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  21. It may well be the new Notts retirement village down the A52

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  22. They already have a keeper /batter way above Toms limited abilities.

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  23. 81 NOT OUT
    With all the resources at the disposal of the DOC and PM and Co it’s DIFFICULT TO SEE how we could possibly fail to reach the Blast 1/4,Final stage .
    I just don’t get it . And neither do hundreds of other Notts members and supporters?

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    1. Even worse than that. Not only did we not qualify we actually finished BOTTOM of our weaker group and were out of contention to qualify after less than half the group games. It's an absolutely staggering decline, in other years when we've not qualified (not many of them) it's always gone to the last or penultimate game.

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  24. Again it's now 3 out of 4 years
    That there will be no representation
    From from northern half of the blast on finals day, so it's shows how bad Notts were & by finishing bottom of the northern section & becoming laughing stock of the whole competition

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  25. With all the inflated salaries of the management and coaching staff, add to that, the ever increasing back room staff, is it any wonder why the club is strapped for cash.
    The fact that they expect members to pay in advance for 2025 membership with no early bird incentive offer, goes to prove how deluded and detached management are, from how the membership view the pathetic way the club has been in steady decline for the last 10 years.
    If Notts get relegated, then membership numbers are likely to decline further. Maybe a lack of funds is the only way for the people we want rid of, and a few other hangers on to get the boot.
    We live in hope

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    1. Strength of the opposition in competition has driven standards upwrds for most of the South Group. North Group counties have let standards slide or at best are overly dependent on overseas players with their erratic availability. Notts /Perer Moores guilty of complacency.

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  26. JUST STOP NEWELL :D

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