From General Committee Candidate and County Cricket Members Group Notts rep, Nick Evans
Hi Folks,
This is very much off the top of my head some please agree/challenge/tear apart or make another response.
We’ve just had the AGM and the turnout was less than 20%. This is not good in my opinion. Why? Probably because a lot of members regard ‘membership’ as just a season ticket. There’s nothing wrong with this per se except that I feel it misses the point of being a member of a member-controlled club.
Many of you will know that I watch a lot of German football having lived out there. I am a member of my club, Borussia Mönchengladbach and it costs me €60 per annum. What this gets me is a vote at the AGM, priority for tickets for matches and a discount at the club shop. Mönchengladbach is a much smaller city than Nottingham yet the club have over 100 000 members. Members of Borussia are much more committed to voting and the governance of the club than NCCC members are. I think this is because there is no point being a member of a Bundesliga club unless you participate in its governance. The stadium capacity is 54 000 so obviously not everyone can get in for each game. The club sell 30 000 season tickets each year, but no more, to allow space for members to buy tickets. I am also a season ticket holder (€380 this year). So I can choose to be a member, as season ticket holder or both.
Why tell you all this?
Well, is it a model for Nottinghamshire CCC to consider? Separate the ‘membership’ from the ‘season ticket’, there could be ‘season tickets’ for each of the three competitions separately or you could buy for two of them or all three. Members could have privileges, such as the vote, but also access to the pavilion, shop discount etc. I could get bogged down in detail here so let’s not go any further.
What I’d like your thoughts on this concept – for and against.
See you in April.
Best wishes,
Nick Evans
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Former Indian captain criticises concussion sub need and choice.
Hindustan Times.
Friday, 7 February 2025.
PTG 4761-22827.
Former Indian captain and now commentator Sunil Gavaskar has blamed India’s coach Gautam Gambler and captain Suryakumar Yadav for “tarnishing the team’s image” over the way they approached the concussion sub issue in the fourth Twenty20 International of the series against England in Pune late last month (PTG 4753-22794, 1 February 2025). Writing in his newspaper column, Gavaskar first questioned the appropriateness of actually allowing a concussion sub in the circumstances that prevailed, and then the choice of Harshit Rana to replace the concussion-judged batter Shivam Dube.
Gavaskar wrote somewhat disingenuously that Dube, who batted until the end of the Indian innings, “had been hit on the head earlier in the the game, so clearly he was not concussed”. He went on with: “Even with the most generous stretching of the like for like term, there was nothing such between Dube and Rana. With tongue firmly in cheek, one could say they are of the same height and same standard of fielding. Otherwise there’s nothing like for like as far as they are concerned. England has every reason to feel done in. This Indian team is a superb team and doesn’t need its wins to get tarnished by such acts".
England-Afghanistan CT fixture to go ahead despite 'gender apartheid’,
Cricinfo.
Friday, 7 February 2025.PTG 4761-22829.The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has confirmed that England's men will fulfil their fixture against Afghanistan at the Champions Trophy (CT) this month, despite describing the "appalling oppression" of women in the country as "gender apartheid” (PTG 4726-22687, 5 January 2025). Richard Thompson, the ECB's chairman, said in a statement following a board meeting on Thursday that a "coordinated international response" would achieve more than unilateral action. The board has come under political pressure to boycott the fixture, with more than 160 British politicians calling for England to pull out of the match (PTG 4737-22734, 16 January 2025).
"What is happening in Afghanistan is nothing short of gender apartheid”, Thompson said. "At a cricketing level, when women's and girls' cricket is growing rapidly around the world it is heartbreaking that those growing up in Afghanistan are denied this opportunity, but the appalling oppression of women and girls by the Taliban goes so much further. The Board recognises there are different views and opinions on the issue of boycotting the match and has listened carefully. We have been in close contact with the UK Government, the International Cricket Council (ICC), our England Men's players and other stakeholders to discuss this matter, as well as considering how best the ECB can support those women cricketers who have fled
"Following this, we remain of the view that a coordinated international response by the cricketing community is the appropriate way forward, and will achieve more than any unilateral action by the ECB in boycotting this match, while we have also heard that for many ordinary Afghans, watching their cricket team is one of the few remaining sources of enjoyment. As such, we can confirm that we will play this fixture”.
Thompson said that the ECB will press the ICC for further action, including ring-fencing funding to support female players from Afghanistan, and considering recognising an Afghanistan women's refugee team. Last week, the board donated £UK100,000 ($A197,945) to the Marylebone Cricket Club’s Global Refugee Cricket Fund.An Afghanistan women's XI played an invitational T20 against a Cricket Without Borders XI in Melbourne last month, mounting pressure on the ICC to support their players (PTG 4754-22802, 1 February 2025). Afghanistan remain Full ICC members - with full funding - despite no longer being able to fulfil the requirement to field a women's team under its Taliban government.
Gambler horrible man
ReplyDeleteAs a cricketer always played with a massive chip on is shoulder never played the game with with a smile on is face
If Dube was concussed having failed a follow-up concussion test at the conclusion of his innings after his bang on the bonce, surely the concussion protocols would have kicked-in. Meaning no playing again for ten days, erring on the side of caution at all times with head injuries being often difficult to detect. But no, Dube played again for India, as if nothing had happened just a couple of days or so later (not close to 10 days without symptoms). All of which begs the questions that can't be asked of the all powerful Indian authorities...
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ReplyDeleteBeing a Member of Notts gives you the early opportunity of buying tickets for matches you don’t want to see.
But Notts Marketing will try and persuade you that it’s your given duty to do so.
I think I am receiving an email a day now plugging everything from Membership to Light Shows , through to Hindred matches , Blast matches and top quality games that involve teams of NOT top quality ?
At a Membership focus group that I attended, the assembled were asked about the amount of emails that the club posted , by the the club's marketting person. The consenus was that the level (which at that time was 2 or 3 messages per week) was just about right. There has been days in the past week where I have received emails from Trent Bridge at the rate of 2 or 3 PER DAY, if not more. Clearly another other focus group came to a different conclusion.
DeleteI agree with regard to membership options, I emailed the club months ago asking why they don’t offer separate membership options I don’t want to watch t20 I’m still awaiting a reply….
ReplyDeleteInteresting concept but, on balance, I disagree.
ReplyDeleteI attended the AGM but none of my Member mates did.
When asked, they simply say that they are relatively happy with how things are run and meetings, minutes, constitutions, etc are just not their bag.
They love the cricket.
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN (as individual counties are generally small minded and don't look to their wider economy) BUT, if you could buy a fixed price County Membership which bought you membership of your county but gained you free access to any County Championship at any venue regardless of who were the opposing teams, then that would be a way of broadening the appeal to individuals that live in counties outside of the 18. Yes FC counties would lose gate receipts from travelling opposition supporters but that would be offset by those supporters spending, in my experience, much more on catering etc in ground and on accommodation, local transport fares and dining outside the ground. If ticket hassle/ uncertainty wasn't an issue, those supporters might be more inclined to stay for the whole duration of the matches, spending more locally accordingly. Non-partizan travelling cricket fans would also be in the same situation. This would mean that members' facilities are more likely to be frequently utilised in greater numbers and raise standards universally as a result. The membership could then be supplimented with white ball pass cards for your chosen county.
ReplyDeleteAs she seemed quite ill I didn't ask the question at the AGM but followed up with an email to Lisa asking about Executive membership and the Executive lounge for 2026. I go a very nicely worded reply from Michael Temple basically saying it was too early in the process and that they are still looking at options for the allocation of rooms. Really dont buy that, as in the planning there would have to be structure in place to support a supporters lounge, like bars, seating, food prep, so my take is no Executive membership going forward.
ReplyDeleteThat comment was duplicated from the AGM post by myself
DeleteWhats the problem?? If you dont want to mix with the hoi polloi theres always the hospitality in the Restaurant 6
Deleteand if you want to make donations to the community trust theres dozens of scan points to do so
so you can still pay over and above over the rest of us and sit away from us supporters
sorted!!
The cricket remains the same though
WB Socialist
Do we need different tiers of membership? What are the benefits of an Executive Membership?
DeleteThe benefit if you chose to be an executive member, was a dedicated lounge, an amazing view of the cricket, and three course food and drink available. To the club it was a significant revenue stream, with membership and daily spend probably totalling around £80-100,000 per season. So it is not about us and them but a different offer which suits some people and brings extra revenue to the club. With all sports facilities there are always different tiers, but seems not at Notts going forward
ReplyDeleteSorry missed to add my name to that
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