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I've been asked to make a few corrections / changes of perspective with to the nature of Joey's departure by his family.
Joey was offered a "very good" 3 year contract by Notts but was told that the Club didn't see him being a "regular player" for another 2-3 years. Joey felt another 3 years in the Seconds wouldn't be good for his game, even with the occasional first eleven appearance. So reluctantly Joey looked elsewhere.
Joey made no demands, he just wants to play.
9 counties were interested in Joey.
Kent and Worcestershire both had availabiity for a middle order all rounder opportunities from next season. Kent were the preferred option for the opportunities to try to develop his game.
Jason Ratcliffe is "yet to receive a penny and is a man of complete integrity". Dean Headley, Joey's cricket master from Stamford School, set-up the relationship for both Joey and Zak Chappell with Ratcliffe.
Thank-you Gareth for any record straightening
DISGRACE
Should have tried harder Notts.
Should have been objective with regards to others' lack of form - no one should be undroppable. This would provide opportunities for younger, inform players not just Joey who hasn't been in great form this season himself this year (probably due to poor motivation brought about by the lack of prospects being presented).
Should have been given a real opportunity in the failed Blast campaign, the writing was on the wall in the first week of the competition, we had nothing to lose and everything to gain!
This represents a huge failure by Notts CCC management, coaching staff and captains. If you can't hang-on to the best prospects for the future, and rather bribe other counties' best away from them to play for you, then you have no real future - why bother with an academy at all? The academy only exists to tick boxes and pay lip service.
Peter Moores is right about one thing he says in the above club spin, "members will be gutted" - well this one is anyway!
Icing on the cake, Joey will play for Kent in the One Day Cup this year - another punch below the belt to members Notts!
Joey Evison is represented by an agency "Talent Management", just look at what proportion of "their talent" that they have "managed" away from one county to another in recent years. All with a nice fat fee attached taking money out of cricket and out of players pockets. Someone has filled this young lad's head with unreasonable expectations unless Kent can give him cast iron assurances that he will play all games.
A nice little earner for Jason Ratcliffe formerly of the Professional Cricketers' Association and now a registered ECB agent.
ReplyDeleteOn the face of it, this is an awful mistake/Quinton de Kock-up by the Notts hierarchy. I have never spoken to Joey, only his family on occasions so don’t know what’s in his head or what his Agent has said to him, as you state Nottsviewer.
ReplyDeleteThe worrying aspect is this is the 3rd young, talented player(potentially the best young player we had at the club) who doesn’t want to stay, the other two being Luke Wood(now an England white ball international player) and Matt. Milnes who, ironically, also went to Kent and who now, has left to join the Tykes.
I find it hard, with an ageing Notts squad in general, he didn’t think he could force his way into the Notts side over all the different formats in the coming years ? Once properly fit, surely he would now put pressure on an ageing Fletch or one of the top 6 batsman ? There’s always one out of form, like Joe Clarke this season, always the likelihood Duckett gets back with England and then there’s always injuries to players.
Kent may have intimated they see him as an integral part of their middle order over the next 5 years, but surely no side would commit to a guarantee of a player, especially one who is still not completely established, being in the starting eleven ?
I did know he hadn’t signed a new contract with Notts but still find this very strange indeed. Who knows how many games Jake Ball will now consistently play for us, what on earth is the situation with The Chappell of Rest(presumably on his way) and now we take another huge gamble on The Rolling Stone by giving him a 3 year deal, when his former club Warwickshire, would only give him a white ball contract after all his injury woes and lack of games for them
I’d be delighted if someone could now explain this one to me please ?
The quote from Peter Moore seems very reminiscent of what he said when Matt Milnes left!
ReplyDeleteVery disappointing, more important than ever to look after the other young players! Really not sure about the signing of Stone!
Everytime Notts have played recently I have looked at the team in the vain hope there would be some rotation of the squad especially amongst the bowlers , Just what was the point of having so many if you have no intention of playing them
ReplyDeleteDo we really want to lose the likes of Hutton (again)Pettman and in the spinning department Harrison and Montgomery?
One thing is for certain if the present policy continues Joey Evisons departure will be far from the last.
You have been warned Notts ignore it and suffer the consequences
Further to my comments above regarding team selection, Is it too much to ask to select a wicketkeeper who can actually keep and maybe score runs when they are needed,Something our present occupier of the role seem to find increasingly difficult to do....
DeleteBit of a bombshell. I’ve posted my comment on the Norfolk page so won’t type it out again. Foxy
ReplyDeleteDeeply disappointing but sadly not surprising. Like others, l also fear the loss of several other good home grown prospects before the season is over.
ReplyDeleteAnother deja vu moment as a Notts supporter.
ReplyDeleteMoores realistically cannot be surprised by this departure. Evison is an ambitious young cricketer who has already shown his ability, both as a batsman and bowler.
I reckon he has a decent chance of playing for England, in the not too distant future as a batsman, and should have played more games for Notts, in all formats.In 4 day cricket, he has a sound technique, unlike Joe Clarke.
He has had injuries to contend with, but Moores and co, have used this somewhat as an excuse, for not selecting him.
Moores has expressed his opinion that a player has to reach 22 to 23 to attain a level of consistency, to be considered for selection on a permanent basis. Tom Moores was obviously as exception to his rules, but irrespective of Tom, this muddled thinking belongs to the dinosaur age.
Unfortunately, the club has again gone backwards, and Moores tenure is proving to be an extension of the Newell years, by selecting the team, and signing players from outside of the county again. No doubt, the club will be looking to recruit someone such as Ben Mike as a replacement.
Moores is not a Notts supporter. He is in a job to win games of cricket, so knowing that the club can afford to keep signing players from other counties, is music to his ears.
Sadly, until there is a change at the top, this will be the status quo, with talented players such as Schadendorf, Pettman and one or two others moving to other counties, to be replaced with players from elsewhere.
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DeleteSack Moores the answer then . No one has the balls tho......from north notts.member
ReplyDeleteWhy have the club allowed him to effectively leave half way through the season. I am sure he would have been selected for the 50 over comp.
ReplyDeleteEvison should have been made to see out his contract, as it is weakening Notts side. The management have no bottle whatsoever.
The One Day Cup is now effectively a development competition, Notts would want to develop their own players surely, not Kent's. This surprises me as Zak Chappell is in the eleven at Norwich - so he must be staying at Notts, Glos can't afford him perhaps(?)
DeleteYes very sad and entirely predictable - the signing of Stone surely the last straw. We've done this before but off the top of your head just list them out: Pattinson, Fletcher, Patterson, Hutton, Ball, Chappell, Evison, Pettman, plus Christian in the 2020 and our fourth seamer is consistently James and Mullaney - and now we have Stone. So Joey despite a very good record last year would be ninth in the pecking order before signing Stone (probably the same in the 2020 and additionally in that we typically play two or even three spinners). And, rightly or wrongly, we are a second division side, it not even being clear how we might end up next season even if we are first or second. Looks like Kent will be in the first division barring disaster. Two front line seamers are consistently injured and still there is barely a sniff for him - despite making a hundred in the first game of the season and then being dropped. Plus our batting looks as settled as it has for some time so he may well expect the two overseas players to be two bowlers for the next few years. Your tie to the club has got to be very strong indeed for you to think that your career will not benefit from going somewhere else, especially in the first division, even if you are as low as fifth or sixth in the pecking order there. He must feel like we don't want him and even if that is wrong this move must be good for him. Clearly the management don't care and it is a very great shame as increaed home-grown participation is a source of pride. I wouldn't disgree with "disgrace" and I hate to mention it but in fairness: we did enjoy the excellence of Pattinson and Patterson in the last match; we do all want success - we have not signed up to the admirable but long-term Sussex appraoch; and the management have enabled Patterson-White and James to establish themselves in the first team (and indeed Evison himself had a decent run last year).
DeleteA lot of very good points made by everyone. The batting does, indeed, look settled but Joey may have come to the conclusion some appear un-droppable despite pretty average performances. If Evison was still here would he have come into the side in place of Joe Clarke when the red ball starts again in September? Of course not, but Clarke is playing on reputation in some games and looks ‘ a million miles away from the best young batsman in the country when we signed him from Worcester who appeared a shoe-in to play International cricket very soon.
DeleteWhat disappoints me with this departure is what other big clubs/Test grounds lose their promising young players to other, especially smaller clubs like Kent ? It just doesn’t happen. Hameed was ‘shot to bits’ at Lancashire and although I’m delighted the move has worked out well, this was a massive gamble signing. You would have no chance whatsoever in prizing Ollie Pope away from Surrey or Harry Brook away from Yorkshire and I don’t think for one minute either would want to leave.
So the question is why has an ageing squad over the 3 formats somehow let Matt. Milnes, Luke Wood and now Joey Evison walk out of the door. All of them are young, fit and talented. No other big club would let this happen in my opinion
Agree with you totally ORAC . I could see this departure coming weeks ago . This has left me totally gutted as many other members will be . I've been a member over 40 years and i think Joey is the best prospect I've seen . Yet like Matt Milnes and Luke Wood he's allowed to leave for Kent ? Totally fed up with what's going on at Trent Bridge.
DeleteBound to miss one - Broad - so tenth in the pecking order
DeleteAn absolute managerial disaster. You invest time energy and effort in bringing someone through and at the point when you can harvest all of that they say NO THANKS and leave. What is wrong at NCCC. The question I ask does their ambition out strip the club. Are we just happy at plodding along living on past victory’s. It’s hard to change but so easy to carry on doing the same. Do we say enough or carry on DOC and Peter Moores.
ReplyDeleteMoores / Newell have gone with their judgement call and are backing their expensive signing - Joe Clarke, who appears to be as undroppable as Moores junior, a lack of form not an issue for those two. 8/9 counties were chasing Joey's signature, Kent were able to make assurances about first team selection, which is what Joey wanted at Notts. A talented but perhaps impatient lad. In his debut for Kent: scored 15 and took a couple of wickets against Suffolk.
ReplyDeleteJoey asked for no such assurances at Notts. He was offered a good contract to stay but crucially was told opportunities would be limited in red-ball and T/20 for the next 2-3 years. He’s young, ambitious and just wants to play as much as possible. He wasn’t looking to leave but it boils down to opportunity and at this time, Notts are unable to provide it.
ReplyDeleteFine no point in having an academy then is there . Talk about going backwards . Joey looked by far the best all rounder we have yet whoever tells him you won't be a regular in the first team for the next 2 or 3 years ? I'd love to know who told him that .
DeleteAbsolutely awful from Notts . Going backwards again,signing players . I'd love to know who told Joey he wouldn't be a regular in the first team for 2 or 3 years then punch his lights out . He's the best all rounder at the club or was
DeleteThe problem is that Peter Moores has staked his repution on Clarke, Duckett and his own son Tom - only Duckett has delivered the goods, whereas the other two are going backwards. First eleven places are blocked to others by these three.
ReplyDeleteHameed hasn't signed a new contract, that I'm aware of either, if he returns to Lanashire for instance we'll be left in the lurch with no replacement opener in proper cricket, making do with Mullaney again.